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Kerry McCoy Kerry McCoy was a 2x Suffolk County champ and was the 1992 NY State Champ for Longwood High School. While at Longwood, Kerry was a Cadet World Runner-up and Junior World Champion. At Penn State University he was a 3x NCAA All-American, winning two NCAA Championships. Kerry’s career record at Penn State was 150-18; he also won 131 of his final 132 matches, including an 88 match winning streak. In 1997 he won the “Dan Hodge Award” as the nation’s top college wrestler. Kerry was a 2x Olympian (2000, 2004) and is a 5x US National Champion. He has placed in the Top 4 in the United States at the Open level for 10 consecutive years. Kerry is a 4x World Cup Champion and a 3x Pan-Am Champion. Kerry won the Silver Medal for the United States at the 2003 World Championships, held at Madison Square Garden. Kerry is a native Long Islander, born in Riverhead and raised in Middle Island. He is currently an assistant coach at Lehigh University, the #2 ranked team in the country. As the first subject in an ongoing series profiling the top names in Long Island Wrestling, Kerry McCoy recently spoke with Bill Faxon exclusively for the Long Island Wrestling Association.
LIWA: How about when you were being recruited by colleges? But, even then I didn’t think I was going to go on and become a wrestler. I figured that I would go to college and just wrestle while I was there.
LIWA: Your junior year you were teammates with Nick Hall, he was obviously
getting a lot of attention from colleges. Did you look at it as a preview
for the following year when you would go through the process?
LIWA: You guys were one weight class apart; you must have had some battles
in the Longwood room.
LIWA: You and Hall met in college and you beat him. What was that like?
LIWA: Going back to those Longwood teams, you had a storied career with the
NCAA titles. Nick was an NCAA All-American. John Lange was an NCAA
All-American. The line-up was chock full of county and state champs. At
the time, did you realize that it was something special?
LIWA: You spoke about how you were the younger guy to Nick Hall in 1991, but
the next year you were the elder statesman to a terrific group of younger
wrestlers, including John Lange. Did you think that he was special at the
time?
LIWA: You and Lange were teammates again at Penn State.
LIWA: Another standout on those Longwood teams was Rason Phiffer, who had a
legendary high school career. Phiffer did not wrestle in college, but what
can you tell us about his talent? When he was in 7th grade Rason would take the seniors to the limit. My senior year, when Section XI had 11 guys in the state semis and around 10 state champs, Phiffer lost in overtime to one of the state champs, Brian Fischneich from Huntington. Rason went undefeated the next two years, winning the state titles easily. He was definitely one of the most talented wrestlers that I’ve ever seen.
LIWA: Who were the toughest guys that you wrestled in high school? Outside the room, my junior year I wrestled Jason Dove from Hauppauge in the county finals. He was ranked #1 in the state, I was ranked #2. I ended up getting the close win. My toughest match in high school was against Mike Quaglio. He was the state champ at 167. We were supposed to go to the Mid-Hudson tournament, but something happened and it got cancelled. A bunch of the teams got together and had some dual meets. Mike went up to wrestle me just to get the competition, I won the match, I think the score was 1-0. It was tough because he was such a competitor, but also because he was such a good friend of mine. In freestyle the other guy that was always around was Jason Kraft. He was a state champ that year at 155, Quaglio was the state champ at 167 and I was the state champ at 177. We all wrestled each other starting back in 7th, 8th, 9th grade. Finally I got bigger and Kraft stayed the same size, but he was one of the guys that pushed me back then, because I knew he was always ready for competition.
LIWA: How did you wind up at
Penn
State? I had no clue about colleges. I just wrestled because it was what I liked to do. When Penn State first came in the picture, I was still thinking of SUNY schools like Brockport, Stony Brook. I thought Penn State was their version of a SUNY school or a community college type, so I had no interest whatsoever. They were actually last on my list. Once I went there I met some guys, and everything fit. It all fit for me, and one of the things that they said was that Adam Mariano wasn’t going to be on the team anymore, that he wasn’t going to be around next year. If Adam was going to be there, I definitely would NOT have gone to Penn State. We were the same weight, and I don’t want to say that he was my idol, but he was everything that there was as far as wrestling on Long Island. For me to think that I could go and beat him out was beyond reality for me.
LIWA: Your freshman year at
Penn
State you were
basically a .500 wrestler. The following season you were an undefeated NCAA
champion. What do you attribute that to? The weekend after the NCAA tournament, I competed. I competed in 7 tournaments after my freshman year. University Nationals, Espoir Nationals. I went to the Espoir Worlds in Greco-Roman. I went to the NYAC. I just trained, and trained and trained. I came back and I wanted to exact revenge on all of the guys that beat me my freshman year. I went up to heavyweight. I was small, but I was getting better every single day. I could train everyday without worrying about 2 days for cutting weight and 2 days for recovering. I was training every day and getting better every day because I didn’t have to worry about my weight. It made it that much easier. I did everything in my power to make sure I wouldn’t lose.
LIWA: You and Stephen Neal had a long series of matches. You beat him to
win your 2nd NCAA title. He beat you a few times and eventually
won the Gold medal at the 1999 World Championships. You beat him to make
the 2000 Olympic team. Tell us about you and Neal. Neal and I did go back and forth. Going into the Olympic year we had wrestled 8 times, and it was 4 to 4. I beat him 3 of the first 4; he beat me 3 of the second 4. He was a great athlete, a great competitor, a great wrestler. We always had a lot of respect for each other. This year, before the Nationals, he called me up right before the National Finals to wish me luck. We still get along well. It helped me improve to know that I had to get better to beat Neal. I owe him a lot of my success.
LIWA: Speaking of this year’s National Finals, you wrestled Steve Mocco. This was a match that people in the wrestling community were
looking forward to for a long time. Were you aware that there was a buzz
about this match? What was the key to your win in the match itself? It actually started back when he was a senior in high school and thinking of coming to Lehigh. Was I going to be done? Was I going to compete? There was a lot of speculation that he originally went to Iowa because he knew that he was going to have to wrestle me to make the Olympic team so he didn’t want to train with me. I don’t know if it’s true. There was a lot of hype around it. My main focus has always been just to get better every day. I realized that the hype was there, but I didn’t focus on it, didn’t get caught up in it. My goal was to be an Olympic Champion. Obviously to get there you need to make the US Team and then move on. I wasn’t going to focus on one person; I was focusing on making myself better so that I could beat the rest of the world. Through all of the hype I just focused on that idea, improving myself, I wasn’t worried about what people were talking about. I thought Tolly Thompson, who was the #2 ranked guy, would have beaten him if they wrestled. Tolly got caught and pinned earlier in the Nationals so that kind of opened the door for Steve to cruise to the finals. I was feeling good, I was wrestling well. I peaked at the right time. The match went 0-0 in the first period. I won the clinch in the second period, I turned him and he didn’t really come close to scoring for the match. I won 3-0. It was one of those things where I just stuck to my game plan and I was able to come out on top. LIWA: In 2003 the World Championships were held in New York City. Being a Long Islander, this was basically your back yard. When you look back can you feel good about winning the Silver Medal, taking 2nd in the World, in your own hometown or does it stick in your head that you were in overtime, that the Gold medal was that close? McCoy: It’s definitely both. A lot of people talk, and that’s the way it is in sports, about not being able to win the big one. I look at myself, and I never won a World Championship or the Olympics. I only won one medal. I look at my career, everything I’ve accomplished, and there are things that stick out. I have been that close so many times and I never quite got over the top. The fact is, I did medal in a World Championship, which most people don’t get a chance to do. I was that close to the Gold. Different official, different time, things could have worked out differently. Some things just aren’t’ meant to be. I can sit here and honestly say that I trained as hard as I could. I put in all the effort I could to be the best I could, but when it was all said and done it just wasn’t meant to be. I think about it every day. I think about 2003, 2004. I think about 1998 when I basically had the match taken from me. I won the match in the semi-finals and was all set to wrestle in the finals, that was another medal that I should have had. They protested, overturned the match and I took 4th.
LIWA: Most wrestlers don’t get to go out on their own terms. One guy that
did is Rob Rohn, who you helped coach to an NCAA title in a match where he
was trailing and came back to pin his opponent. To anyone that was in
Albany, or who
was watching on TV, and saw your reaction and your excitement at Rohn’s win,
it was pretty obvious that coaching is something that has become important
to you. It wasn’t just the way that he won it. It was that he had so many ups and downs not just that year, but over his career. He lost in the conference finals, but for him to have the tournament that he did, and to win it all the way he did, it was just an incredible experience. I was overcome with emotion. That was one of the most rewarding times of my career, coaching or otherwise. To see him come through the way he did, after everything he had gone through, it was just amazing.
LIWA: Is coaching something that you are going to pursue?
LIWA: SUNY Binghamton
recently reinstated their wrestling program and is looking for a coach. Is
this something that you might pursue?
LIWA: Is it important that a coaching job keep you on the East Coast, near
your roots in NY and PA? Second to that is going back to New York at some point. That’s my foundation. All of the coaches, all of the wrestlers, all of the fans and supporters in NY those people are important. There are people like Steve Meehan, who has known me since 7th and 8th grade and have supported me the whole time. I definitely believe that Binghamton and other SUNY schools can all be national competitors. It’s something that I’m interested in. What opportunities arise and when will really dictate where I wind up. LIWA: You are interested in coaching, but some of your old competitors have gone onto other post-wrestling careers. Kurt Angle has gone into professional wrestling. Stephen Neal plays in the NFL for the New England Patriots. Rulon Gardner has signed to do mixed martial arts fighting. Have you considered these fields? McCoy: I think about it every day, just because it’s a great living. Those guys are making millions. I don’t think it’s something that I’d pursue. Look, I’d love to be in the NFL. What a great way to make a living, going out and playing a great game on TV, in front of thousands of people, playing one of our national pastimes. But I look at myself as a 30 year old guy and there are 21 year old kids that can do everything that I can do, and they can go do it for the next 10 years. There’s not a strong market for me in the NFL. As far as the WWE, I’m a huge fan of it. I used to watch it a lot more than I do now, but I still catch myself every couple of days getting fixed on a new storyline. But those guys are on the road more than I was on the road as a competitive wrestler. They are on the road 200, 250 days a year. 5 or 6 nights a week they are traveling on the road, and I’ve done that for so long that it’s not something that I want to jump back into, so that’s unlikely. As far as the UFC and things like that, I’m not crazy.
LIWA: You and Jesse Jantzen have a lot in common. Do you take a special
interest in the college careers of Jantzen and other Long Island natives? I talked to Jesse here and there; I do try to keep that strong Long Island connection. I’ve got a lot of pride in Long Island wrestling, and New York wrestling in general. As a whole, there’s not a lot of recognition for NY wrestling. You only get to see 13 kids in the state tournament, and you don’t necessarily get to see the 13 best kids with only sending one guy per section. The guy that took 2nd to Jesse Jantzen in the county tournament every year probably would have placed in the states. There might have been times where the guy could have won the states if Jesse wasn’t there. It’s important to keep those connections among those of us who know who tough it is. The guy that takes second in Section XI doesn’t have the opportunity to get a full scholarship to Penn State. A lot of Long Island guys don’t compete in college, but the ones that do, I try to keep tabs on. Hopefully the more guys that go on and do well, and bring their success back to Long Island, it will help bring recognition and help make Long Island and New York the wrestling powerhouses that they are capable of being. LIWA: Despite all of the great wrestlers to come from Long Island, only you and Carl Adams have won multiple NCAA titles. When you factor in your US National titles, your World Silver medal, your 2 Olympic Games, one could argue that Kerry McCoy is the greatest wrestler in Long Island history. Have you considered your place in history? McCoy: *laughs* No, definitely not. I would never think of it like that. There have been so many great wrestlers. I might have more accomplishments, but so many guys have done great things. Jesse Jantzen being the first guy to win 4 state titles, that’s incredible. I barely won the one title. John Lange winning 3 titles and the way that he dominated. I’m partial to the guys I wrestled with, but Nick Hall was one of the more dominant guys in the country. Adam Mariano, Dean Morrison those are the guys that I looked up to and that set the way for me. Those are just the more recent guys. You have my coach, Mike Picozzi and his coach, Lou Giani and all that they’ve accomplished. I’m only as good as the guys that paved the way for me. Hopefully someone else comes along and takes it from where I left off.
LIWA: What will you remember most about your career when you look back? Being there for Nick Hall winning Longwood’s first state title was incredible. Being there for John Lange winning the Big 10 tourney and coming back from a first round loss to wrestle all the way for 3rd in the NCAA’s.
LIWA: Are you definitely done as an active competitor? If there was a weight class around 230-240, where I could wrestle my natural weight and just worry about my technique and not all of those other things I would do it. But, that’s very unlikely that they’ll change the weight classes. It’s most likely not going to happen, so most likely that’s it for me. There have been a lot of ups and downs in my career, but I can definitely say that I gave it my all. In the end, that’s really what it’s all about. I gave it my all.
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